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marred by fraud, president karzai and his rival pulls out. president obama sends 30,000 more troops to afghanistan part of the surge. 180 die as ethnic violence erupts in western china haven't troops are sent in to restore order. western leaders accuse iran of building a second nuclear plant diss despite a u.n. ban. six years after the invasion, american troops hand over power in towns and cities. welcome to this week's news review, major stories seen on bbc during the second half of 2009. in july, six years after american-led forces invaded iraq, president obama has announced thetch withdrawn from the country's towns and cities but he warped difficult days lay ahead as iraqis celebrated. a car bomb in the northern city killed 25 people. e bbc's jim muir witnessed events in baghdad. >> despite the bombs an iraqi victory parade to celebrate the last american leaving baghdad and other cities. on the streets, jubilation. across the board, everyone is glad to see the americans go, it means iraqis are back in charge. >> today we saw great pleasure mixed with deep sorrow. the pleasure of
and money to peace with the taliban undermine the environment with the afghan people? homage karzai has been defending himself from the accusation. -- homage karzai. britain's prime minister answered questions from afghan and british students and defended his deployment of british troops. our world from paris -- our world affairs correspondent was there. >> president karzai arrives in london knowing he has repair work to do on his own reputation and that of his government. last ye's afghan elections were widely seen as flawed by widespread corruption. at the same time, more troops than ever were being killed or injured in the war against the taliban. was it, one student asked, worth the price being paid? >> british soldiers have been fighting in afghanistan for nine years. practically half my life. have we seen any change in the situation over there? will we get better? or will my children ask me the same question? >> i think the first thing to say is we had to take action in 2001. after the al-qaeda bombing of new york, the knowledge that al- qaeda were operating from afghanistan, the help
and money to the taliban not undermine the freedoms won by the afghan people? tommy karzai has been defending himself against accusations ahead of thursday's london conference on afghanistan. britain's prime minister gordon brown answered questions from afghan and british students and defended his deployment of british troops. our world affairs correspondent was there. >> president karzai arrives in london knowing that he has repair work to do on his reputation and that of his government. last year's afghan elections were widely seen as flawed by widespread corruption. at the same time, more western troops than ever were killed or injured in the war against the taliban. was it worth the price, one student asked? >>. is it shoulders have been fighting in afghanistan at nine years, -- british soldiers have been fighting in afghanistan nine years, practically have my life. will it get any better or will my children be asking me the same questions? >> i think the first thing to say it is we had to take action in 2001 after the bombing of new york, the knowledge that al qaeda was operati
that remove his name d four others om the black list made the decision to coincide wit president karzai's outreach program. >> those who are not part it as i menoned earlier, who are not part o al qaeda and othe, wh are the sons o afghan soil anwho are in thounds and thousands an thousand they have to be reintegrat and ey are welcome toe reintegrated. >> reporter:he oounl black list stillontains the names of 140 taliban mmanders, some of wh aren the american li of killr capture list. past experience hasshown that efforts get themround the negotiing table have prov very dngerous for them. a major offensive isbout to be launched in theudden hearand in helmond by bothu.s. and british troops. the cost ofpresident obama's inforcements is put at $1 million pe soldier per yea that is $30 billion in the next 12 months. al jazeera, kab. >>> as we turn to ts week' roundtab discussion, we're gointoocus entily on afghantan this evening. at yeerday's london conference and beyond, there was renewed talk this wee of trying to negotiate an end to the lng war inafghanistan. joining us once again tonig
-speaking pashtun who had been living in exile, a man named hamid karzai, to turn the pashtuns against the taliban. and, two, beat the taliban in kandahar in their home base. did i mention we're only talking about 11 guys here? they are operational detachment alpha 574. these 11 green berets, 11 men did something in 2001 that tens of thousands of americans are trying to redo nine years later in 2010. their story and their success is told through first-hand accounts by these green berets and with the assent of the families of those who did not survive in a remarkable new book called "the only thing worth dying for, how 11 green berets forged a new afghanistan." earlier i sat down with the author eric blehm, and army major jason amerine who led this team of 11 green berets on this incredible mission. thank you for being here. major, let me start with you. the taliban stronghold of kandahar, the only thing that most americans knew about afghanistan at the time that you were there. was that kandahar was their heartland. what was the plan to beat them there and what eventually worked? >> we worked with
of canada about the cabinet picks for hamid karzai. what is the concern over the choices that president karzai is making? guest: he has now made two set of choices. he nominated one slate of cabinet officials, about 24 of them. 17 were rejected by the parliament. but arlin is in a healthy move, asserting itself. this is a good thing -- the parliament is, in a healthy move, asserting itself. this is a good thing, checks and balances. he looked at the first slate of nominees by president karzai and parliament did not like them. they did confirm the most important cabinet choices from president karzai, the minister of defense and the minister of interior, which handles all of the police. the minister of finance, the minister of agriculture, when the biggest recipients of assistance. -- one of the biggest recipient of assistance. those picks are clear. president karzai has recently over the weekend submitted a second state to replace those that were rejected the first time. these are lesser-known people. the second slate are lesser- known people. many people have not heard -- many afghans h
. president karzai told a conference that his company -- country was moving slowly toward national security. of the next 45 minutes, british and afghan leaders and the un secretary general outline their goals. general mcchrystal has the international forces serving with such distinction in afghanistan and soon to be over 100,000 strong. foreign ministers, distinguished guests representing over 70 nations and international organizations, including every single member of the 43 nation strong international security assistance force. representing also afghanistan's key regional and muslim partners with whom we are pleased to work and his involvement in this worldwide coalition to support peace and stability in this crucial region are especially welcome to. this is a decisive time for the international cooperation that is helping the afghan people secure and govern their own country. for this conference marked the beginning of the transition process, of bring the necessary conditions under which we can begin district by district, a provident -- province by province, the transferring of responsib
karzai government who stole the election and ruled only topple. so much of afghanistan is effectively run by the taliban. in addition, we've had eight years with the u.s. has isolated between the kinetic counterterrorism strategy and a counterinsurgency strategy that tries to protect people. and we have seen the last oscillation of that. this happened during the bush administration, and now it's happening again in the obama administration that we are moving back to a counterinsurgency strategy. now besides afghanistan being a much harder, not to crack that iraq we now have a lot of domestic factors affecting the u.s. policy. the american public is war weary after two wars stretched out over many years. and i think it's politically perilous for any politician in a democracy to escalate a war that is already unpopular, even lbj didn't do that when he escalated the vietnam war. u.s. spending in afghanistan is more per year than any other military spends on the planet. so we're dumping a lot of resources into afghanistan. the afghan war is expected to cost another trillion dollars over the ne
which is often not the case. hamid karzai is not particularly interested in doing that. at one point, his generals came to him and said these changes are starting to demoralize the army and his reply was i don't care. if they are bad i will demoralize them some more. there are a few instances where political considerations outweigh merit in how commanders are chosen. sometimes in the military there is a tendency to say how dare we let that happen? certainly it can be damaging in many ways but keep in mind that war is a political activity. there are cases where politics from merrick. our civil war is an excellent example. abraham lincoln gave ships to a lot of inexperienced politicians in the north in order to get their help in reporting people from their state and so forth. ultimately at the higher level you have some sort of balance between merit and political considerations. afghanistan has that balance and the government has not put merit often a enough. in the book i go into a lot of detail on what foreign powers in the united states and afghanistan to improve the leaders of indi
to coincide with president karzai's outreach program. >> those taliban who are not part of terrorist networks, as i mentioned earlier, who are not part of al qaeda and other terrorist networks, or the sons of afghan soil and who are in thousands and thousands and thousands, they have to be reintegrated and they're welcome to be integrated. >> but the u.n. blacklist still contains the names of nearly 140 taliban commanders, some of whom are also on the american military's kill or capture list. past experience has shown that efforts to get them around the negotiating table have proved very dangerous for them. a major offensive against taliban strongholds is about to be launched in their sudden hea heartland in helmand by both u.s. and british troops. the coast of president obama's reinforcements is put at $1 million per soldier per year. that's $30 billion in the next 12 months. david chaiter, al jazeera, kabul. >>> as we turn to this week's "roundtable discussion," we're going to focus entirely on afghanistan this evening. at yesterday's london conference and beyond, there was renewed talk thi
the environment wi the afghaneople? homage kzai has been defending himself from the accusation. -- homage karzai. britain's prime minister swered questions from afghan d british studts and defended his deoyment of british troops. our world om paris our wod affairs correspondent was there. >>president karzai arrives londonnowing he has repair ork to do on hiswn reputation and that of his vernment. last year's afghan elections were widelyseen as flawed by widespread corruption. at the same time, mo troops than ever were being killeor injured in the war against the taliban. was it, one studt asked, worth e price being paid? british soiers have been fighting in afghanistan for nine years. practically ha my life. ha we en any cnge in the situation over ere? will we get better? or will my children ask me the same question? >> i tnk the first thing to say i we had to takection in 2001. after the al-qaeda bombing of new york, the knowledge tt al- qaeda were opering from afghanistan, the hp that was given them by the taliban govement. the question is how can we keep our streets safe and how good the res
for afghanistan's president karzai. the parliament rejected most of karzai's picks to fill his new 24-member cabinet. most turned down were viewed as cronies of karzai. a bit of controversy from five years ago is flaring up again this weekend in denmark where a man has been arrested for trying to kill an artist who drew cartoons of the prophet mohamm mohammed. sheila macvicar has more. >> reporter: carried into the courthouse on a stretcher his face covered to conceal his identity, this is the man police say tried to murder danish cartoonist kurt westergaard. the somali broke into westergaard's home last night wielding an axe and a knife and shouting he wanted to kill him. the car to bist and his five-year-old granddaughter was able to take shelter in a specially secured bathroom. when the police arrived two minutes later, the would-be killer attacked them, too. police shot him in the knee to stop him. five years another a danish newspaper commissioned a dozen cartoons depicting the prophet mohammed. kurt westergaard drewab image of the prophet with his turbin shaped as a bomb. the publicati
in the afghan parliament was a stinging rebuke to president hamid karzai, rejecting 17 of his 24 cabinet nominees. the prize move caused new disarray. two months after karzai was declared winner of a presidential election plagued by fraud. today karzai ordered parliament to cancel its winter break so it vote on a new list of nominees that he's now preparing. he's under pressure to show progress in governing by january 28 when an international conference on the afghan mission convenes in london. among the rejected nominees was influential word lord khan and the only woman karzai had named. lawmakers criticized many on the list as unqualified political cronies. several holdovers in vital posts were approved. among them the defense minister and the minister of interior. along with the ministers of finance, education, and agriculture. i spoke to afghan ambassador today and asked him how big a setback this was to karzai. >> it may be a temporary setback for the president but it's a step forward for the democracy in afghanistan. it's really happy for the parliament of afghanistan to do their j
karzai and his leadership to address this. >> what's your sense of that? have you seen any change in president's karzai steps? >> he's looking to ministers. he and i actually talked about this. his strategic intent is there. what struck me in meeting with these elders was the evolution of this corruption. so, it wasn't something that was always there. it's been over the last decade or so that they spoke to it. these same elders said to me that they were embarrassed that the united states soldier, sailors, airmen, marines were dying for them. they want to lead this effort. they appreciate what we've done, but they really want to lead this effort and this is something i know the president, president karzai is trying to engender in his leadership with his people. >> but what you talk about the leadership issue. you talked in the past about interviews about the critical need of good, local leadership. president karzai, by many accounts, is not moving forward in his second term. you know, his appointments to the cabinet were largely rejected by parliament and many on grounds that these
others have spoken to the need for president karzai and his leadership to address this. >> what's your sense of that? have you seen any change in president karzai's footsteps? >> initially -- he was -- looking to ministers and he and i actually talked about this in his strategic intent is there. what struck me in meeting with these elders was the evolution of this corruption. so it wasn't something that was always there. it has been over the last decade or so that they spoke to it. these same elders said to me that they were embarrassed, that the united states soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines were dieing and they want to lead this effort. they appreciate what we have done but they really want to lead this effort and this is something i know the president, president karzai, is trying to engender in his leadership with his people. >> you talk about the leadership issue and talked in the past and in interviews about the critical need of good local leadership. president karzai, by many accounts, is not moving forward in his second term. the -- his appointments to the cabinet were largely
to have -- that's part of the equation, and we have to have the karzai government show us that we -- it is going to truly reform. >> let's start with the karzai government, senator mccain. while you are there, president karzai is trying another time to get his cabinet approved. if he does not have faith that these people are not corrupt, if we can't get to that simple first step, how can we build institutions or repair roads and put them to work and educate them in afghanistan and build the confidence that trust the central government and not the taliban? >> they have a long way to go in the area of corruption. but the fact the parliament rejected his nominees, i think you can see a democratic process moving forward. president karzai recognizes what he just has been through was an important lesson to him. we have to keep pressing on the corruption issue. let me tell you two other things that concern me. first of all, i think we have the right strategy and the right resources and the right leadership. we went outside kandahar to an operating base where americans and afghan soldiers
this week. move in return for this additional commitment, we must agree with president karzai's plan for the expansion of the afghan army and police. we will agree today that the afghan national army will # 134,000 by october 2010. and more by 2011. we will commit to supporting a police report with afghan national police numbers preeti 9000 by october of this year. this is a present bigger than our coalition forces. we need more international trainers to do this. we are doubling the number of military teams for the afghan police starting in april of this afghan security forces will be 300,000. international forces will rise to 135,000. the balance will continue to ship toward afghan security control. as president obama made clear last month, by the middle of next year, we have to turn the tide in the fight against the insurgency and also in our work to support the afghan government. today we affirm that the increase in our military efforts must be matched with governance in economic development, a surge to match and complement the current military surge. we have agreed today to back
with on for hours. this came a day after president hamid karzai tuck -- calls for talks with the taliban in london. talking to the insurgents is an idea that is not gaining ground as a way to end a conflict here. president karzai's election opponent has announced his support. >> i do believe we should reach out to the people we are fighting against in these provinces. we should reach out to them like brothers. we will see if there are people who will speak to us. they only want to bring the state down. they do not believe in the process. >> behind-the-scenes, it appears the contact is being made. a western official told the bbc that the un special envoy was seeking talks with the representative from the taliban leadership. we could not confirm whether discussions had taken place. all the afghan government has been publicly reaching out to the taliban, it is not clear what the movement will do. it seems unlikely taliban leadership will engage in talks any time soon. instead, continuing to lead an insurgency which is growing in strength year by year. bbc news, kabul. >> russia has carried out the fi
. the fighting was to last for hours. this all came a day after president thomas karzai called for talks with the taliban at a conference in london. he unveiled a plan to win over foot soldiers. talking to the insurgents is an idea that is gaining ground as a way to end conflict. president karzai's election -- opponent has announced support. >> i do think we need to reach out the people. we need to do that province by province, locality by locality, and see if there are willing -- if there are people willing to join us. they do not believe in democratic process. >> from behind the scenes, it appears as if contact has been made. a western official told us the u.n. special on boy to the country has had secret talks with a representative from the taliban leadership. they refuse to confirm whether any discussions have taken place. while the afghan government has been publicly reaching out to the taliban, it is not clear what the movement will do. it seems unlikely the taliban leadership will engage in talks any time soon. continuing to lead an insurgency, it is growing in strength the year
backed president karzai's peace plan, including the fund to pay taliban fighters to give up their weapons and be reintegrated into society. >> with the personal chemistry still clearly working, hillary clinton and david miliband speak to a conference that was intended to breathe new life into sorting out afghanistan. 70 plus representatives squzed into their seats. americans took a back seat. it was gordon brown who set out the objective. >> by the middle of next year we have to turn the tide in the fight against the insurgency and also in our work to support the afghan government in winning the trust of the people. >> how to do it, well, one important part of the strategy is to try to divide the taliban by offering them cash and jobs to leave. plenty of volunteers are just there because the taliban usually pay them well. >> reintegration is what afghan needs. we must reach out to all of our countrymen, especially our disenchanted follows. >> what he means is it using the 86 million pounds now on the table to pay the taliban not to fight western or afghan soldiers. how will the public her
responsibiliti forces late this year, or early next year. president hamid karzai said that training the afghans could take five to ten years. and that foreign troops might be needed for 15 years. in tonight's lead focus, we're going to hr about another key component of the emerging afghanistan strategy. from london, chris ship of itn tells us about the newly devised plan to win over the taliban by buying their support. >> reporter: it is easy to be cynical about the conference in afghanistan. in a stately mansion in london where they ate sea bass for lunch. but 60 countries are here today, working on an international plan to end the grueling conflict which has been dragging on for nine years. for the first time the world's military and diplomat elite are preparing a high-risk strategy of buying off the taliban and talking to their leaders. >> let us welcome the plans from president karzai and the government of afghanistan. for an afghan led peace and reintegration program that offers insurgents a way back into mainstream ife. on the condition that they continue to renounce violence, cut any tie
karzai is under pressure to crack down on corruption and taliban insurgents. parliamentary elections have been delayed because of a lack of funding. it is against this backdrop that the london conference on the future of afghanistan begins wednesday. you have been talking to general stanley mcchrystal about the role his troops will play in the months and years to come. >> what is your function? are you here to defeat the taliban? are you here to shore up the government in kabul? are you here as part of a long- term military presence? are you care to make sure that american troops and foreign troops can get out next year? >> we're here to give time and space for the afghan people to build a nation. we will not build a nation for them, nor can we secure the nation for them. it must be done by afghans. as international partners, we givehem an opportunity to do that. in doing that, we also meet our own requirements. we prevent the return of transnational terrorists like al-qaeda, and the return of a repressive regime, which is pretty unacceptable to anyone. >> who are you fighting? i have bee
to have the karzai government show us that we, that it is going to truly reform. >> well, let's start with the karzai government. senator mccain, while you were there, president karzai is trying another time to get his cabinet approved. if he cannot even get a cabinet approved and he does not have the faith of other people in their government that they're not corrupt. if we can't get to that simple first step, how can we build institutions and how can we repair roads and put people to work and educate them in afghanistan and build the confidence of the afghan people that trust your central government, not the taliban? >> well, they have a long way to go in the area of corruption, but the fact that the parliament rejected his nominees, i think you can look at a democratic process moving forward. i believe that president karzai recognizes that what he's just been through was an important lesson to him. we have to keep pressing on the corruption issue. but let me tell you two other things that concern me, first of all, i think we have the right strategy and the right resources and the ri
problem, and we have to have -- that's part of the equation, and we have to have the karzai government show us that we -- it is going to truly reform. >> let's start with the karzai government, senator mccain. while you are there, president karzai is trying another time to get his cabinet approved. if he cannot even get a cabinet approved, he does not have the faith of other people in his government that these people aren't corrupt, they know how to do the basics of good governance. if we can't get to that simple first step, how want we build institutions and build roads, put people to work and build confidence in the afghan people, trust your central government, not the taliban? >> they have a long way to go in the area of corruption. but the fact the parliament rejected his nominees, i think you could look at a democratic process moving forward. i believe president karzai recognizes that what he's just been through was an important lesson to him. we have to keep pressing on the corruption issue. let me tell you two other things that concern me. first of all, i think we have the right
hamid karzai told the conference that is country is moving slowly toward national security but that training security forces could take years. at an opening session this morning, the british and that an leaders and the un secretary general outlined their goals for the conference. . . >> in the last year britain has suffered hundreds of fatalities per he to the countries represented today recognizes that this mission is vital for our national security. it is vital to the stability of this crucial region and it is vital to the security of our world. we set out last autumn on strategies and we're making progress. the military search is turning to the tide against the taliban- led insurgency. it is at the same time building the capacity of the afghan forces who are fighting alongside us. a civilian surge is insuring that areas are cleared of the taliban and our stabilization teams go in to work with local to halt ground that has been a superdelegate. britain is proud that we lead the largest civilian reconstruction team in afghanistan. during 2009, we doubled the number of brit
government as well. guest: years ago when he met with hamid karzai at a dinner, someone said to him, mr. president, how are you going to address this problem of corruption? in fact, he said, what problem? joe biden, famously -- dinner was over -- he threw his napkin down and said, this dinner is over, and walked out. nothing has happened to defrost his relations with president karzai. both biden and richard holbrooke have terrible relations with karzai. host: james traub is with us to talk about the influence of joe biden. republicans, 202-737-0001. democrats, 202-737-0002. independents, 202-628-0205. you can send us an e-mail or tweet us at. next phone call. caller: i think our president is doing very well. if we wanted joe biden as president, he would be president. i like the idea that our president is intelligent. he is not a puppet, like the last eight years. i think he is doing what he is supposed to be doing. host: james traub? guest: i guess i would agree, in general. he believes he could be a good president. i believe this is almost a desirable alternative. he is a very knowledg
't have to continue. khzaei -- karzai was a great hope. everyone no knows him respected him. he might change his mind. the pressures that led him to permit and maybe support this corrupt structure could be reversed over time. the people up and down that structure might change their mind. the parliament is -- has stood up against his nominations. who's knows who's going to happen up and down that road. if we succeed in something that we can do, peter has pointed out the crucial important to the kandahar road. than doesn't be impossible to secure that. that changes the economic nature of southern afghanistan. it could get better. >> if i could just add one point. there's no question that the ghost of vietnam haunts this administration. i can tell you from being in it for 60 days. the ghost of what happened to lyndon johnson walks the corridors of this white house, it walks the corridors of this building every day. it's a mistake. we got to get over it. we got to stop fighting the vietnam war. i don't know whether we could have won or not, but it is not relevant to afghanistan. as marc p
. the book centers on this incident which i described where u.s. special operators blocked hamid karzai's planned governor for kabul. she interweaves into it a very well-written and interestingly a history that is well-written, well-organized, and based on a lot of her own research with the original sources. a second really important understanding of the country can be gotten from joe haversty's book "the opium season" which details a year in which he was involved in as a subcontractor in the usaid efforts in 2 004-2005 to provide alternative livelihood's to draw with the work force from up opium production. it gives a great view of the violence and corruption. and moreover it shows the bureaucratic profiteering and dysfunction that is increasing the complexity and cost of our involvement, not just in war, but in development. a third source, and i think it is outstanding if you want to understand the country is rory stewart, who within weeks after the fall of the taliban walked to kabul in the winter which is supposed to kill you and through pashtun villages and described that experienc
. karzai -- having legitimacy, and i do not think we have that. this will depend on achieving security, which i think is achievable, and with good government comes with our own money invested in jobs. without jobs, afghanistan will not be a positive scenario in the future, but i must conclude by pointing out that this is not going to affect our domestic national security, as we see with the last three plots. the underwear bomber came from nine cheerio region with -- came from nigeria. one of them came from somalia, and major hassan came from washington, d.c. thank you very much. [applause] >> peter has to leave at 11:00, so he should take the first few questions, and there is a microphone in the back of the room for anyone who would like to ask a question. >> i work 30 years of the journalists. i retired two years ago. my question is for peter. what i hear now is exactly what i was hearing before the iraq war, and the promise was saddam hussein was on popular. then we will have a democracy. now it is an islamic system. there is a hypothesis that afghan people love us. the last point i
karzai and afghanistan about corruption, and let him look at our government, he can say, for enough money, you can get anything passed. let me explain what that means for other states and what it means for the state of tennessee. right now, we have 50 less state troopers than we had in 1977, and we have two million more people. . without going back to the senate, go straight to the president, we have 15 million more people who have medicaid. with that comes an obligation from the state to pay for that. we don't have any money to pay for it. right now, our colleges do not have one capital improvement project on a single college campus, the university of tennessee and the 26 board of regents. not a library, dormitory or chemistry lab. we can't add any more people to our medicaid and medicare plans. mr. gingrey: some of the teachers in the great volunteer state are having to take furloughs and leaves of absences and that kind of thing. mr. roe: we are in the 1940's in education. here is another unfunded mandate that comes to the state and nebraska, the people in nebraska don't have to pay fo
this week. and karzai raised some eyebrows, it seems, by suggesting reconciliation with taliban leadership. this is by people on the ground, low-level folks, the u.s. working a way to work with those kind of taliban. but in terms of the leadership, does karzai have any international support for this concept? >> absolutely. i don't know, i mean, certainly as far as we're concerned, we weren't raising our eyebrows. that's what we were expecting to hear. because if you want to win against an insurgency, you've got to have strong military force, you've got to put pressure on the insurgents. but ultimately, this is going to be won by political means. you've got to divide the opposition and pull across as many people as possible. and that's going to happen bottom up with the low-level fighters and the middle level fighters and the tribal leaders. >> is that realistic, to think that taliban leaders want a political solution? i mean, do you make that distinguish -- i know the taliban does not equal al qaeda, but is it realistic? >> not for every single one. i think in any insurgency, in any confli
it. >> let us turn our attention to afghanistan. do you have faith in president karzai that he will be able to turn sentiment around with troops on the ground there? >> i did not before. he is the president, you can argue about the election all day long. but he is the president. i want to see how the ax and reacts and works with us. getting rid of the unsavory people that have gotten into that government -- i hope he comes across -- there has been an awful lot in the way of trying to get to that country and non-haven for terrorists. it would help all of athens -- afghans. >> this spring will be the time when congress will debate afghanistan. in principle, president obama is expected to ask for as much as $33 billion more to pay for the surge in afghanistan. i was wondering whether you see it as possible for a lot of the democrats' -- potentially a supplemental, depending on what form the $33 billion would take. do you see any way that this may fail? >> i think a lot depends on how the situation is coming along in afghanistan. i think our military will do well. we have excellent
, if someone is a relative of karzai then things become problematic. we like to think we are going to defer to the host nation's judgement but sometimes we have got to have a role in the same thing goes too in iraq early on we said we are going to let the afghans do it. you have got to let the native population to get themselves. sometimes that just doesn't work and sometimes the americans just have to get more involved. >> a question over here. >> hi tom. i have got to comment. i am a civil affairs guy and i have that kind of a comment for tom and then a question for mark. i have got to pick up on where you left off on your final point because i think in my experience as a practitioner in this kind of business to include low level counterinsurgency operations and i just did in liberia. >> i just want to point out that chris was the one of the great heroes when he tried to keep the kobo from blowing up. >> i think there is way too much emphasis on hearts and minds. as i like to tell people i don't care if you like me because i'm going home to write my harley-davidson. so my mission here is
and president karzai in afghanistan, that he will begin to turn things around in that country? guest: i did not before. she is the president, -- he is the president, you can argue about the election all day long. i want to see how he acts and reacts and works with us. getting rid of the unsavory people that have eaten their way into that government. i certainly hope that it comes across. we have expanded an awful lot in the way of blood and treasure in trying to get that country to be a non-haven for terrorists it would help all the afghan people -- it would help all of the afghan people, the administration there. guest: this spring, the congress will debate afghanistan, because president obama is to ask for $33 million more to pay for the search. i was wondering whether you see it as a tough vote for a lot of the democrats, on a potential supplemental, depending on what form the $33 billion will take. do you see any way this supplemental will fail, the vote will fail in congress? guest: i think a lot of it depends on how the situation is coming along in afghanistan. i think our military wi
and come over to the government's side. hamid karzai is willing to reconcile is taliban leaders with you the offer is not for anyone in al qaeda. leaders have been pushing for a program to entice militants. they must recognize afghanistan's constitution. >> the taliban are welcome to return to to their own country and work for peace in order for us to be able then to have the u.s. and other forces have the freedom to go back home. >> shannon: nato will conduct an investigation into a strike on a outpost. it was called for yesterday after soldiers fired on u.s. and afghanistan commandos. the afghan soldiers thought the unit was taliban militants and call it an unfortunate incidents. >> world leaders of the international conference on afghanistan agreed to a timetable obscurity duties but other issues remain unresolved. joining us, michael owe o'han lynn. >>> so this idea of reconciling with some of the taliban or inviting them to join the government in what it's trying to do, is it a good idea? >> it's early. we haven't established momentum on the battlefield. once we do, an offer can be
. >> let us wcome the plans fm presiden karzai andhe gornment of afghanistan. resurgence who are prepared to renouniolence offer them a way back gqz mainstam l. >> reporter: the leaders will back a multimillion pound fund split taliban fighters. into those motivatedby ideology and thoseotivated by money. e military alone cannot win is war, it means a political settlement with the taliban is becoming a harsh reality. we must rch out to all of our countrymen. especially our disenchanted brotherswho are not part of al qaeda, or other interests. >> repter: that will include members al qaeda. >> if they put down their weaponsb-u accept the afgh democry, i don't see anyway forheir reintration into the afghan society. >> reporter: iran is a notle absent from these lks, where e internatnal coalition knows itoes not haveong befo public good will toward afghanisnuns dry. >> even before today's meeting, efforts were bng made t buy the suppt of afghans who might turn against the taliban. the new york time reports tt the leaders ofone of the largestribes in southeast afghanistan arfed up with
stated to be beginning about 18 months after to give karzai and his regime enough time to stand up and fight for itself. we will see. host: we have our numbers on the screen and we will get to the calls in immelman. -- in a moment. you laid out a number of issues which have to be practical issues that have to be dealt with, but the fact of the matter is that you bring vietnam and it becomes a political issue as well. tell us how you view this as a political issue. guest: the lesson that we need to learn, i think, from john kennedy's experience is this. he was with -- he was withdrawing at the time. we have the classified documents. but he did not tell the truth to the american people why? for political reasons. he wanted to get it reelected in 1964. he had begun to order the withdrawal in 1963. host: and these would have been the trainer said you talked about. guest: 16,000 of visors, not combat troops. but my point is that obama should not repeat that experience. he is clearly going to do the best that we can in a given amount of time, but what we face the prospect -- if we face t
of afghanistan, there is a big political setback for president hamid karzai. parliament rejected 70% of his choices for a new cabinet, including the only woman nominated. karzai's choices were seen as a first test of his quest to build a legitimate and accountable government. many of the nominees were criticized for having been picked for reasons other than their competency. >>> back in our nation's capital here, the senate republican leader strikes an optimistic note. mitch mcconnell saying he understands why show thors might be weary of the political infighting in the nation's capital, but says disagreements are indispensable to a healthy democracy. while the u.s. faces major challenges here, the minority leader predicts better days ahead. >> two long and difficult wars, a prolonged recession, double-digit unemployment, difficult days for our nation. in this new year, we are grateful for the courageous men and women of our own day who keep a lonely watch to defend the cause of liberty. we are also painfully aware of how many americans were out of work this christmas, but these challenges
fighters, the karzai government has been working closely with general mcchrystal's staff under the leadership of a british major general to construct a plan offering incentives to low- and mid-level taliban fighters who are willing to lay down their weapon and recognize the afghan government's authority. president karzai has said that he will be ready to issue this plan within a month or so, and u.s. officials expect to be fully supportive. it will take a few months after that to make the plan operational. while there is apparently no progress to negotiate with higher level taliban to end the violence and become politically active, it doesn't reduce the need to chip away at that lower-level taliban group. we read in the press today that progress is being made. as a matter of fact, with leaders, local leaders in afghanistan in that endeavor. in conclusion, we saw some signs of progress on our visit in a number of critical ways, in training and equipping afghan security forces, in partnering closely in the field with the afghan security forces and a perception and reality of opti
. lot of our senior team in the country. spend 90 minutes with president karzai and most importantly we got out to a agaabad valley and met with the team on the ground there. i told the president in february and i kept my word to him, that if he would give our soldiers the resources they needed to get the job done and come home safe he'd have our support. i expressed the night of the president's west point address concern about the timetable of withdrawal. july of 2011 beginning withdrawal. i don't think it makes sense on a battlefield to tell the enemy when you're going to stop fighting. [applause]. so - i'm - i was pleaseed the president called for reinforcements but i wanted to ask tough questions. what i can report to you as general mcchrystal actually answers to people like me but i answer to people like you so i'll report to you, that i'm told that they have the resources and personnel in the decision that the president has made to get the job done. um... - if they have the time to do it. that's issue. i talked to the afghan leaders and rank and file military afghan militants in t
karzai and with his cabinet on numerous occasions, notably with the trip that hillary clinton and i had made to afghanistan on october 18 and 19 in conjunction with the inauguration. the afghans understood this, they are very comfortable with it. so i need to underscore that's what july 2011 means. not a withdraw, but the start of a responsibility transition in which american combat troops will begin to draw down. on the second question and in regard to pakistan, i'm not sure quite how you phrase it. strobe, you made a generic comment? >> mike hamlin and his colleagues have put together a set of bench marks on sort of how things are going. and the trend that they feel they have identified in pakistan is ominous, negative by comparison with a year ago. >> yeah. i read mike's monthly, it's quarterly, actually, isn't it? i read mike's quarterly table with great interest. and it@@@@@@p it's a common problem i've seen in every war i've been involved in. let's not confuse the number of cell phones with low the war is going. let's not minimize that cell phone penetration is a hugely important
president hamid karzai declared the situation was under control. about mid morning, several, maybe as many as a dozen or so taliban militants stormed government buildings, including the ministry of justice and ministry of finance, they also took over a shopping mall and a movie theater. this was a very complex, very well organized attack. about an hour after the first shots were fired, an ambulance pulled up to a police checkpoint, in theory there to help the hurt and wounded, but an insurgent was inside and detonated a bomb, killing at least one person at that site. over the entire area, about a 2-mile area where all the attacks were going on, five people were killed and nearly 40, jane, were injured. jane: connor, these attack necessary kabul generally have been happening more and more. what impact are they having? >> jane, it's been devastating here. the international community, much of it is pulling back, some of the international community is pulling out. i talked to international workers, aid workers, u.n. staff, every day to say they're leaving. it's simply too dangerous here. i sho
ability for governments. this was discussed at length to present karzai, and with his cabinet on numerous occasions, notably in putting the trip that hillary clinton and i made an afghanistan in october 18 and 19th in conjunction with president karzai's inauguration. the afghans understood this. they are very comfortable with it. . . to underscore that's what july 2011 means. not a withdraw, but the start of a responsibility transition in which american combat troops will begin to draw down. on the second question and in regard to pakistan, i'm not sure quite how you phrase it. strobe, you made a generic comment? >> mike hamlin and his colleagues have put together a set of bench marks on sort of how things are going. and the trend that they feel they have identified in pakistan is ominous, negative by comparison with a year ago. >> yeah. i read mike's monthly, it's quarterly, actually, isn't it? i read mike's quarterly table with great interest. and it helped -- influenced me a lot as we tried to develop our own benchmarks. but i think we have to be very careful about two things. maybe th
as the prime minister of pakistan and are meeting with president karzai. it was an interesting juxtaposition as we looked to the military component what is happening on the government's side in both pakistan and afghanistan. when it comes to the governance issue in afghanistan, in our meeting with president karzai, he stressed very much the significance of the upcoming parliamentary elections. the need to ensure that under the afghan constitution, that process moves forward to clearly define or establish the legitimacy of the afghan government and their processes as they move ahead. we also had an opportunity to visit the police training centers there in kabul. very important to understand the progress that is being made at the afghan army is being trained. they truly are operating at a deficit in terms of the numbers and bringing more recruits in, but what they have seen in the past several months has been remarkable in terms of the numbers of recruits that have come in. we met with the minister of defense, who indicated that just in the past month, the number of recruits that they have rec
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